Church News Mid 999
Volume 2, Issue 3
Mortals, and why wer are stronger than gods. Gods... All powerful... or are they?
I would like to put forward for discussion a theory of mine, that some may find
disturbing, others will find heartening, and the God botherers out there will
find terrifying as they may all loose their power over mankind. Firstly, where
does a God get His/Her strength from? Is it from within, or is it from their
worshippers? Certainly a difficult answer, but my feeling is the latter. Why
else would they be so intrested in worshippers? Why else would they have a
need to give gifts of their power in return for your devotion? Why else is
this new God suddently gaining strength all the time if it is not for the
power he gains as he gains followers? If this were the case then what would
a God be without followers? My supposition is this, Gods are powerful creatures, but the power they have is the power we give them in worship, in turn they
return that power to some chosen few of their followers as prayers and
rituals. In this case a God is only a focus for the strength of many, that
it may be utilised by a few. If this were true if people stopped following
the God, its strength would wan and falter until forgotten and wasted away.
This is one reason why mortals are more powerful than Gods, if we stop
believing in them, they will leave us alone, but if they stop believing in us,
so what... Secondly, Gods desire your worship, but it must be given, it can
not be forced, so in this way again Mortals have the upper hand. We may choose to
worship them if we wish, but they may not choose who worships them. Thirdly,
I have witnessed Necromancers at work, and have been immensely impressed, even
our local Necromancer, who is a bit mad at the best of times, has more power
over undead than any priest I know.
Priests may destroy minor undead, but with the right tools any mere farmer
can as well (So long as he holds his ground and does not panic), but with the
more powerful undead all he can do is send it home for a short time to cool off.
A Necromancer on the other hand uses his own powers, not those given by a
restrictive God, and he can no only send them home, he can destroy or create
them as he sees fit! I have pondered this, and again I believe this comes
down to the fact that a God needs to be worshipped to exist. If a priest
could destory undead would he be needed once they are gone? But if he can
only sned them away he will need to stay where he is to make sure they never
return. In this way a village will need to support the priest continually
and eventually the villagers will be forced into the Gods worship through a form
of blackmail "Worship with me or I leave and the undead will come back",
"Become a convert and you can hold them at bay as well, because I do not have
the ability to destory them you must all learn to hold them at bay". This is
the worst form of blackmail, because you are told and taught it's for your own
good! I do not refute the existence of Gods, I may never have met them, but I
have seen their Work, what I refuse to accept is the belief that they are more
powerful than man, without us they would never exist, and without our belief
they will cease to exist. I believe in one thing, the strength of humanity,
and what we can achieve when we stand on our own feet and support each other, no
matter if you be Human, Elf or Orc, if we are as one our belief will power
ourselves and the gods can go hang.
Anon Human Devotee
A message to all members of the Church of Crowa, particularly High
Father Brandt, Primate; from High Mother Thellona O'Redsmith.
What has happened to the majestic church of Crowa? Has the influence of
the Nameless One
penetrated our members weakening their resolve, eating at their courage,
leading us down the wrong paths to destruction and shame!!
Turn to Crowa again, and lay yourselves before her. Lean on your lady -
she will give you strength and courage, a will to fight and the blessing of
victory. Lift your defiance against the Nameless one who only has presence
through our failures. We will not let him use them against us, they are past
and a new day and a new fight dawns. Respond to the call or Crowa, rouse
yourselves and sharpen your weapons. Ready yourselves to fight for all that is
right, to defend the life you once knew and wish to know again.
Peoples, Churches even Gods may rise and fall. We have lost some courageous
brothers and sisters who were strong in the faith and a torch to many.
However, look beyond their deaths, whatever the circumstances, to a fresh
fight for Crowa. Their lives were defined not by their relationships but by
their service to Crowa and in what they achieved as her instruments. Likewise,
look first to your Goddess, not to your feelings of loss, and then you will
best honour both Crowa and them.
Crowa will forgive most folly, but repentence must be followed by renewed
vigour. Achieve this and the Church will be strong again, and the name of Crowa
will be the loudest shout throughout Ithron.
Brandt comes clean over Astona
Brothers and sisters,
Of all the things I have had to write to you, this is undoubtedly the
hardest. As I'm sure many of you are now aware I have failed both my church
and my Goddess - and badly so.
Almost a year ago I told High Father Kent that I was not a warrior but a
priest. It is then ironic that in Darian this month past that The Goddess
gave me strength to scatter both dark elves and dragonkin before me in battle...
and yet I failed in the most basic duty of a priest; to protect the souls of
Although the worshippers of the dragon were defeated, Prelate Astona and
many of the knights died in that first battle, and many other crowans in the
second agsinst the dragon itself. The school of demonology informed me that
it had a demon which was master of all four schools and could affect resurection.
Since the schoolmaster and I bothe believed that Astona was needed alice if
hundreds of lives were to be saved, I allowed him to continue and the demon
demanded the High Primate's personal mark in return for the service... I
agreed since I believed that the ends justified the means.
It was after that things went wrong. The demon agreed that my mark was
prince enough for the ressurection but now added that to ressurect the
Defender of the Faith of Sharda's
foremost enemy it would need the permission of the Emperor himself.
It left and returned with the Emperor's emissary which demanded a second
price - the Crowa Blade
in return for permission to proceed. I explained that the sword was not
mine to give and it accused me of backing our of the deal, saying it would
take Astona's soul in payment for its efforts. Both Joshua Nails
and I offered our own souls in place of Astona's but it refused.
Since I could not stand before The Goddess and say I had merely watched as
Astona's soul was taken I tried to interpose myself and disrupt the ritual, but
the demon ignored my efforts. As it came to the end of its ritual I had no
other ideas so I picked up the Crowa Blade and struck the demon. It exploded
with immense force, vanishing back to Sharda with Astona's body - those of
us present were only saved by the fact that the sword absorbed the blast,
cracked and vanished. After that I remember nothing for Nails' demonic hand
leapt belatedly to the defence of the greater demon and cut me down.
The school of demonology and I have begun efforts to regain Astona's soul,
and I pray to Crowa to find if there is any way in which the sword may be
regained. Regardless of this however I feel that a soul - of my friend, and
of the champion of my goddess - has been denied access to Crowa's halls and
condemned to Sharda by vitue of my pride and my error of judgment. As such
there are many questions I need to answer for myself, and thus I have
tendered my resignation as primate to the Council of Elders and the new
Defender of Crowa's faith; Prelate Conrad Rampling.
U have confidence in the abilities of Prelate Rampling,
Holy Mother Rose Madeline
and you all to live up to the standards set by Astona, Whiteraven, Murren,
Thellona and others. I remain a servant of the Lady Crowa and will continue
to serve her to the best of my ability in whatever role falls to me - as
High Primate of Ithron or simple soldier; I obey the wishes of my church
and my Goddess. Praise be unto the Lady Crowa. Praise be unto The Seven.
High Father Brandt
Vleyborian is Scum Sucking Thief!!!
This letter was sent to the Norham Post by Alexander to explain his
resignation, he was such a nice guy!!! Now his dead body has turned up,
branded as a Thief, can you trust nobody?
To all my friends
Many of you have asked why I have retired from the position of Defender of
the Faith of Vleybor, and retired from actively adventuring. Although the
last months have been hard for me I feel that my thoughts are now collected
enough to tell you.
As most of you know, my life was governed by tow things. Love of my lady
Vleybor, and love of the one who was due to be my wife. I will not mention
her name for her own religious beliefs. The death of my love broke my life
in two. The only hope that I have is that when I am reborn I will meet
At the TrollBall competitions in Blackwater
it was seen that I had a disagreement with the other members of my church
and I was temporarily removed from the position of DOF. According to
official sources this was due to my `immature and irrational behaviour'.
This was just one of the problems within the church. Unlike High Father
"Lady" Jessica Rheinhardt
I do not care about my own image, and the work of the White Lady is more
important. I have been ordered not to heal people, and not to risk my own
life to save others. I have even see a High Priestess of Vleybor not claim
a body because it meant getting her robes dirty. Luckily High Father
Moroham Veil is now
in charge of the church; and he is a good and kind man. I hope that
he can make a difference, and change the church around from serving the images
and pockets of its members, to serving Lady Vleybor and all the people of
I do not mean to openly criticise the church of Vleybor but these things
must be said. I am afraid that we are not alone, for the Primages of Sidhe
and Rolbor both seem to act the same way... I hope that they will take heed
of my words.
I would just like to thank all the people who have influenced my life and
turned me into the man I am today. These people have given me something to
look for, and however they act or acted cared. With love and honour I
honour them all.
Wayland, Pope Brandt,
Arach, Lord Anakin,
Joshua Nails, Dr. Savage and of course my own love.
Maybe when Ithron starts caring again I will feel it appropriate to join
you again. Live for the Seven, Ithron and your Friends. Not for yourselves.
- I would just like to reiterate that anyone wishing to research any new
spells should first contact me. The Church will then fund the research and I
will be able to collate the information with any others which are being or
have partially researched previously.
- I was very pleased to see last issue of the Norham Herald which contained
so many letters from the faithful. The Herald is only issued twice a year,
whereas I try to issue an Issue of Acorn Antics every month or two.
- Please send me any letters, notes, ideas, stories, poems, jokes, etc., for inclusion in
- Due to recent events within Ithron regarding the Nameless One and due to
High Father Aspen's other callings, I am concerned that I have left the
Arboris unguided and its advantages too weak. If you have any ideas for
the Arboris then please contact me.
- Oh.. and Defender of the Faith Vincent "Nature Boy" Solo is dead!
High Mother Rowan Tasker, Primate
Greetings to all the faithful, it is good to speak to you all again. Here
I am again sitting by the fire wine in hand considering what to say. This
happens every time the Herald contacts me asking for th churches article in
Some of you may be having some trouble with the Mages dictates upon religion,
this may have been cleared up by the time that this is published so I apologise
if this is out of date. The mages are heathen spell casters owing allegiance to none
but themselves, they have no higher ideal or insight from the gods and they
have the gall to say that members of the faith are not welcome within the
mages guild. If this is the case then they are turning their backs upon the
Seven and thus their souls are in peril. Now this may not worry the mages much,
probably because they may have to sell their souls for the power to use
soulfire, while this may or may not be the case it is the opinion of some of the
people I have talked to.
Now a fried of mine is having trouble with an excommunicated superior. In
no way should you followe and order from such a person unless you agree with
it. These people have been cast out by the god or gods responsible for their
inappropriate actions and they wish to tell you how to do your job. If you
follow their lead they will drag you down with them and you will burn also soulless
and friendless, they are lonely at the bottom and wish for others like them.
As always we need new converts. If you can advance to devoted or priest now
would be a good time, especially with this nameless one rearing its
incredibly ugly head it would definitely helf the cause and bring a greater
force to bear against this evil presence. The more the merrier is what I say.
We as always need more money, we are badly in need of funds churches need
money in order to run smoothly and buildings don't build themselves. I
personally donate all money I don't need tot he church and as I don't need much in
the way of money I only keep enough to replace that which I have used on an
outing. Commonly I tithe roughly all of the money I earn., so as much as you
can spare the church can use.
Having attended Springfest I can safely say
it was quite refreshing to get absolutely slaughtered on wine and good friends,
to all who were there my congratulations and thanks we had a laugh did we not,
despite the fact that quite a few of us died it all turned out well in at the
I would just like to add commiserations to Moroham Veil as your stint as
Primate was unfortunately cut short. Congratulations to High Mother Jessica
Rheinhart the new Primate of Vleybor and I am sorry but I am still not
interested in marriage, I feel that I could not cope with settlind down with
a single person just yet and considering my calling I feel that I will never
do so. My life is so hard at times! Also I would like to say a fond farewell
to the late Guardsargeant of the south Edmund Walker, I knew him for
some time and I was sorry to hear of his passing, the Rolborian church will
miss you the most I feel as they were lacking in numbers before you left us.
This is getting depressing isn't it, also my condolences to the ex-primate
of Rolbor he didn't die thankfully but he is no longer in office. To finish
I wish to send my heartfelt commiserations to Brandt the High Primate for the loss
of his favourite sleeping partner, she was strong, sharp, and as straight as
they came, I am of course referring to the Crowan Blade that was sadly lost
at Springfest. To add to this list of the sadly departed I must add the
whole of the Roses of Crowa
barring the head of this distinguished religious order. I am sure that is no
reflection upon your skills that they all died within twenty four hourse of you
taking the position Madeline. I am especially sad to say that the most chaste
woman in Ithron has also deid the Prelate Astona Rose of Crowa this was an
especially sad day for all of us. Added to this catalogue of the
deceased is a companion I had the pleasure to adventure with on many an
occasion the late Coloureseargeant S.G. Jones,
I am aware that some of you found him to be an odd sort of person having only one
eye, one leg and only two toes remaing upon his right foot, he had other bits missing
but the are of a personal nature, I feel that missing that much must have meant
he was an old campaigner in the crusades. But no maybe he was just unlucky
and it all happened i his first battle in the bar room so he was sent hom. We
will all miss this generous character and his sense of humour.
Well I think I will make it a short one, may the Lady shine upon you all.
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Council of Fight?
I assume the rumours of members of the Traldan Faith being unjustly
treated by "The Council of Light" are not true.
I'd like to think that this elite association spends its days deeply
immersed in vital discussion concerning the nature of The Nameless One and his
minions, not pointing accusing fingers. I would find it reassuring if I could
rely on their wisdom in this time of uncertainty.
How ironic itis to read of an internal squabble, Bicker, Bicker, Bicker, give
someone some power and it goes to their heads.
If any Traldan is persecuted because of Her faith, She should report it to
me and I will deal with the situation, swiftly and permanently. Do not fear
any sarcasm from me of the rest of the church.
Father Curo Surleeth
Defender of the Faith of Tralda
Does Privet think he should be Primate?
I hear through winding grapevines (it was printed on the cover of the last
issue! - Ed) of a rumour I'd rather not hear. I am sure that this is just
a rumour and that you are retaining your present position within the Church.
This comment is noe due to 'discussion' we have had between us from that
day on the Bridge with a Big Demon who nearly wiped out Owyn (Crowa Bless His
Soul) but to the fact that you have in mine and many other fellow church
members opinion exceede yourselves in your role as Primate and High Primate.
In fact we seemed to have been blessed by Crowa with Popes Daddy Cool, Owyn
and yourself and this work should continue.
Enough niceness. I understand that there has been a lot of Crowan blood
split from the Summer Festival until now, and I ask forgiveness from Crowa
daily for my enforced absence and lack of any help I may have been if I were
there. The recent incident which I believe may have tipped the scales for
you, with the loss of more Crowans, Our Defender of the Faith (Crowa Bless
Her Soul) and the Crowa Blade would have been a great blow indeed, but your actions were
right and delivered in the right way. Every good Commander and Leader takes
responsibility for his or hers charges, and as such, suffers when they suffer.
Suffer for a period Brandt, and then reassess your proposal. I understand we
are few in the Priesthood now and this should also affect your decision. At
this time, do we have one who can take responsibility for the church as you
have done? I look forward to spilling blood in the name of our Lady with you and our
Brother and Sisters real soon.
Keep the Faith
High Father A. Privet of Crowa
Vleyborian Church turns to new Leadership!!!
At the recent festival of Light, High Mother Jessica was named by the
Council of Elders as Moroham's successor to the Primacy. Jessica is the eldest
daughter of Earl Reinhart of Brisel and is a well-known "high" society figure.
Some reports, including an earlier letter of resignation from previous DOF
Alexander of Shallowbrook, have indicated that Jessica might be out of touch
with the common people and more concerned with her image than in saving lives.
Jessica has stated that she fervently hopes that this is not the case and
will let her actions as Primage and as a priest speak for themselves. She
first intends to concentrate on raising the positive profile of the church so
as to encourage folk to commit their lives to following the White Lady. Other
projects to encourage and support all existing members of the church are also
underway, including the compilation of a book of prayer to be supplied to all
members of the priesthood, a support pack for new priests and devoted and
montly classes in healing and counselling techniques. The new Primate is also
warmly encouraging all existing members of the church to write to her,
introducing themselves and letting her know of any situations they feel she or
the church might be able to help with. She would especially like to hear from
any kindred or devoted who are either considering supplication or experiencing
difficulty in doing so.
Lord of Brisel is not above the Gods
Rumours from Brisel accredit an Earl Rhienhardt, with supporting an act to
ban demonology in Brisel and with further saying that he considered it the
responsibility of the churches and (legal) schools of magic to deal with
those already in his realm.
I cannot speak for the (legal) schools of magic, but I can assure you that
it is not your place to speak for the churches. Your comments show your lack
of respect for the Gods and for their appointed leaders, the primates.
On matters of faith and the Church th eprimates are the word of the Gods.
Your disrespect and impudence to the Gods and the Church is an insult to both.
I am sure your actions are from ignorance and not deliberate and so I would
encourage you to seek forgiveness and publicly perform an act of penance for
your insult. For too long people have shown disrespect to the Gods and is
intolerable. You may feel your mortal law protects you from the consequences
of your actions, it does not.
The law of the Gods is above the law of man. Seek forgiveness for your
actions and walk in the light, showing respect to all the Gods.
Father Ishmael of Rolbor,
Defender of the Faith.
New Religious Appointments!!
Since the recent assassination of Primate Mulg of the Church of Kharach in
Labry, the first new Primate of Kharach in what must be nearly 20 years has been
announced as High Father Bart of Labry.
Bart, author of the Norham Post's "Necrobarticon" column said, "I am
disappointed by the lack of members in the Church. People better start joining
or people are going to die and Surican, don't knock me out again, or its steel
The Church of Longstor remained emotionless over the death of the latest
Defender of the Faith to die, fighting in the name of Seven. Vincent 'Nature
Boy' Solo, originally from the Bolteen and Sintel area, turned up dead,
carrying swiftdeathed weapons, obviously part of a set up! His replacement is
Arak of Caer-Marw, but we at the post think anyone taking up a defenders job
at the moment needs his head examining!!!
Is this Heresy of is it True Faith?
I am Nakor Acoma - Devoted follower of Tralda and I believe and show respect
in and to eight Gods and Goddesses. I used to believe in one church with
seven denominations. The actions and events of last year's festival of
Summer have changed this. There can be little debate that there now
exist three churches:-
One with six denominations: The Church of the Light - Crowa, Longstor,
Vleybor, Rolbor, Kharach and Tralda.
Two with a single denomination: The Church of Darkness - The Nameless One.
The Church of Shadows - Sidhe.
Goodness and light have no meaning without the contrast of Evil and darkness and
if you have two extremes then you need a balance in the middle. Sidhe seems
to have accepted this as The Scales of Sidhe
played a major part in allowing certain dark aspets to make it to the menhir.
What is the point of this ramble I hear you ask? Two fold really.
First there are far too many people showing disrespect to The Nameless One.
Certain of you out there may know of my lack of respect of Sinner Brandt, which
seems to have been borne out by his actions with the Crowa Blade and his deals
with demons. Do not mistake this with an disrespect for the Goddess Crowa
herself who has played a major part in my early life. I show a similar lack of
respect to the followers of The Nameless One but I tend to hit them and not
throw my hair in their dinner, but again do not mistake this with any
disrespect for The Nameless one.
My faith is very simple - show respect to all Gods and Goddesses oh, and by
the way if you...
Attack a shrine to Tralda - I'll kill you.
Attack a shrine to Kharach - I'll kill you.
Attack a shrine to Crowa - I'll kill you.
Attack a shrine to The Nameless One - I'll kill you.
Attack any shrine - I'll kill you.
Second the Guilds and Law are getting involved in faith. A certain
Guildmaster has forbidden his members to join any church and the law is define
heresy. I'm sorry did we just lose a load of Defender of the Faiths? Faith
is a personal matter and if we are to allow Guilds to enact such rulings
then the law must step in since the natural check on these things is
excluded - even the Defender of the Faith of Vleybor carries a big stick! What
has the Archmage got to hide from the
prying eyes of the faithful? Why put such matters in the hands of the courts
where juries can be threatened and those skilled in arms can act with impunity?
If the Dukes' Council is to do anything useful then let them write a code
of laws that places faith where it should be - at the top. Enough of placing
the Primate of the most fashionable church on the Guildscouncil that seat
belongs to the Primate of Sidhe - The God of Balance.
Father Nakor Acoma
Defender of Faith
Is the Sidhean Church leading us down...
The Road to Ruin?
Ithron could very soon be up to it's neck in False/True Gods, Civil War,
Corrupt Arch Mages and Psychotic Religious Zealots, should Ambrose be
thinking of putting aid into the coutryside, medicienes and food...... or
possibly has he come up with a solution to the problem involving a lot of
bricks and a few workmen and some orange lanterns?
We have to find some way of keeping the populace happy.
The suggestion I have is: Major road improvements.
Advantages: The people who have no land to work on because of crop failures
etc. can get a job on the road gangas and feed their families. We have better
commerce, goods can move around better, making the country richer. We can move
food around better, hence feeding the population more efficiently.
We can move troops around more efficiently.
It's a win - win situation, the investment put into the system, will
encourage trade from all surrounding countries.
For the use of the Ithronian highway tolls can be charged which increases
tax revenues. The populace have jobs, can feed their families and have a better
way of life.
Let's take Ithron into the next millennium with a bang.
What do you people think.
PS. I still think its a good idea to build a games stadium, for
entertainment for everyone.
Roads are good.... you can move troops down them.
... Once we have the roads built, we go onto sewers and aqueducts, then the
land will be whole again after we kick ass, the people can go back to farming
and because of the roads and aqueducts, their markets will be bigger and hence
more profitable, the roads will generate taxes and Ithron becomes a richer place.
Its called civilisation. We become rich and powerfule, wars end and we all live
in peace. Its a dream but dreams can come true if we work hard enough. It will
not happen in my life time but if I can be part of starting something like
this, my time on this earth will be worth something. A few people can make a
ITS COMPETITION TIME AGAIN!!!
Simply finish the following phrase and send it in. Magic Item Prize as
usual, the Guildscouncil may need the ideas.
"If I had all the Guildscouncil Money, Power and Influence then for the
good of Ithron I would...."
My Favourite Weapon
After reading the various articles about favourite weapons, in the last
issue, I felt compelled to put quill to Ale mat and bring everyone's
attention to the fact that a tankard has all the benefits of a bottle and more.
It takes repeated pummelling before breaking and if used correctly, the
startled image of your victims face can be left permanently indented on your
favourite drinking vessel, giving years of much merriment. I'll see you
down the Leathery Badger.
B. A. Kant.
Guild Protector Scouts. Kindred of Tralda. Kindred of Kharach.
Being a basically in-offensive person with little regard for fighting you may feel
it odd for me to have a favourite weapon, well I do have a couple. My very
most favourite weapons are daggers, not your everyday daggers but little ones
no more than three or four inches long. I know what you are thinking the fact
that with such small blades very little damage could ever be done, but with my
speed of hand the the small weight of the blades I can strike several times with
each hand for most peoples one. As many creatures have found out to their
I also favour a lovely shiny blade of mine granted to me by the Lady
herself a year ago last Winterfest. It was a very moving experience fo myself
and a very scary one for the others around me. In the time that I have been
granted with it's use I have only used it once at the last Council of War, it
did seem to cause the dark gods a great amount of pain.
The other weapon I always carry is a smithy hammer that I inherited from a
great friend of mine called Gwynevon who was in that field alongside that
of Alchemy he used it to forge items of power so I use it in the hope that it
gained some of the power channelled through it.
That's it. All I have to say is "If all else fails, trust to the fruit
knife". By Bowen Steadlyn.